Creative Labs Zen MP3 Players Sound Blaster Card

wow that is a gorgeously designed mp3 player for year 2011. sure the share price going hit double digit soon

Now you see why lemon has failed utterly in Creative shares.

Jimmy Loh, perhaps most are too pessimistic about Ziio's android 2.1. They are actually behind by 0.1 version and not much more than speculated. Most high-end tablets are 2.2 and 2.3 is not yet available. Even 3.0 is off-target for now.
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2011/01/asus-tablets-to-ship-with-android-2-3-instead-of-android-3-0/

Most importantly, it is how well Ziio can perform with flash.

i think ZiiO version of Android is heavily customize with interface to ZiiStore or X-Fi feature so its kinda hard to keep up with the latest Android version. and sometimes the android version can move up very fast and its difficult to play catchup

Yes, that's the big disadvantage of android. They may revamp certain things in the next version and you need to redo it again. And they give updates every few months here and there rather than windows path. They are more like DOS era of the PC OS. The big three mobile OS is still apple, android and windows. Whether android will hold its place we have to see. It may end up like linux or windows (recall PC OS fight). Creative has to come up within this month android 2.2 or lose out. Nook color is updating to 2.2 this month. I believe feb or mar or latest Q2 2011 onwards we will see real 2.3 tablets around. I am waiting for ziio 10" and flash support.

Jimmy Loh, your favorite 200 MA is at 4.28 to 4.29.

ONE NEED TO JUST LOOK AT THE WEBSITE OF CREATIVE TO KNOW HOW PATHETICALLY THE COMPANY IS MANAGED. NO CUSTOMER SERVICE/CONTACT PHONE NUMBER ALSO INDICATE THEY ARE NOT BOTHERED ABOUT CUSTOMERS WHO PURCHASE THEIR PRODUCTS.

Another lemon post.

Any idea which app or where to get app to enable the Ziio7 to play rmbv files?

rmbv files? i think its not supported

200 ma breakout will change the major trend from downtrend to uptrend

Hi Jimmy,

My micro SD card is readable by my handphone and also by Zii O, however when I inserted it into my Window 7 notebook, the computer requires that I format the card before I can use it? If I format I would lose all the photos and data. Why is it? Thanks for advice.

I have sufficient funds to make 200 ma breakout. However, I am waiting for Ng Kai Wa's move.

talk nonsense, if u can break 200ma with no follow through buying , its also useless, in fact it might fall harder to $3.50 if there is no support after you stir it up
my advice : dont bother

you mean Ng Kai Wa will help you break 200 ma?

regarding the micro SD card, yes, if you format it, all your content will be lost

answer to SD cards in windows 7 is below

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/981642

For both Flv and rvmb...you can try Vplayer .apk

Thanks Xfan on SD card problem.

Jimmy Loh, will Creative break 200MA? Currently at 4.27.

its 4.02 :|

better sell, heading to $1.20 soon

Creative's vision and target is the living room experience.
Tablets and other entertainment devices will have to wait, focus on wireless entertainment in the living room is current.
ZiiBook will have its chance again but the chance is lost now, to iPad in schools.
ZiiBook will be newer and more advanced than iPad in its release, this will be a point to beat the Apple.

Creative is secretly working with "someone". "Someone" requires them to use pen input and low cost device, eventually for all Singapore students. Most schools won't use ipad as majority of Singapore education software is flash. Creative is also porting Hans vision over. For the silly 1.2 price (used to be 99 cents, then 0, then 3.5, all sour), Creative can easily buy back all shares for 50 mil as they still have hundreds of million cash. Creative has to release android 2.2 with flash next week or lose out for the 1st fight. Most people still do not have tablet and eventually every household in Singapore will have at least 2.

aiyah, this is already old news that creative is working with some text book publisher and SPH on the content of their tablet...singapore market is too small and it will not be big enough to turn the company around...in fact, i still think $1.20 is overpriced...a fair value is $0.78

dreamer and dream breaker.ha ha ha ha ha ha...

WARNING! Wicked one is back for revenge again.

Did wicked one keep track of my IPC shares? It shot up to as high as 17cents today!

Jimmy Loh, your favorite 200 MA at 4.2688. All MA converging, momentum around 100, RSI trending upwards, all signs point to potential surge. Do you think it is a good idea I sell out my IPC for good profit and get Creative at 4 a piece?

u still dreaming about making money from creative??? boy its time to end this dream,ish creative said its vision is to have its presence felt in living room, i think maybe storeroom or rubbish chute is a better and more realistic goal...it always does its song and dance but still ends up white at close of day...this is a sign of distribution with no benuine interest of floow through buying...so pls sell before it hits $0.55 ...yes , you might say i am dreaming, but if you know i predicted Babcock shares to hit $0.05 when it was trading at $0.80 in 2008, then you should be worried about my prediction...

Wicked one is a complete fail. You have failed in Creative shares losing huge sums and now you are broke and you come here just to whack for revenge. You don't have any track record, please don't copycat. Repeat, you have FAILED UTTERLY!!! You indeed have a wicked heart. You have suffered retribution for your actions, one of them is losing money not just in Creative shares. More will come if you continue. If you think a share is going down, you can always borrow script and short sell if you can afford. I doubt you can. If it is going to go up, go and buy it. I doubt you can now. When you fail, it doesn't mean others will fail like you. Only irrational people like you will seek for revenge. Don't be a cry baby also and claim foul. You should be ignored. Go and get a life! Jimmy Loh, I just sold off IPC at 0.16, waiting for opportunity to buy Creative.

last time, apple is also at this stage for a long time when steve jobs is not around. but look at them now, ipods have made they turn around.

some investors here holds a long time contrarian view

one anonymous d*** h*** trying to sell shares in a fan forum . on top of that site owner comparing oranges and apples..ha ha ha ha ha...

grow up guys, grow up!!!

to be honest, i think creative only worth $0.38

look at chartered and you will understand the possibility of creative becoming a penny stock

creative has still not come up with any interesting product yet, lets hope they can make a break through

creative still thinking it is year 1995. don't expect any magic unless creative wake up and realise it is year 2011.

Well I wonder with all these long and in-depth analysis and discussion, who is making $ rom Creative stock?

no one haha

Creative should be delisted, return $4.10 to all investors so as to end their misery and dont waste their time on a stock that no one make money...since 2007 it was stuck in a down trend that never seem to recover, with or without economy recovery.

seems like the saying "patience pays off" does not apply in this case. I think its a matter of time before it turns into the next chartered, delist at 20c

PROSPECTS
The Group will continue to invest in product research and development, particularly for the Zii Platform. To support
the marketing and sales of the new products and services, operating expenses may increase in the coming quarters, in
line with the introduction of the new products and services. For the current quarter, the overall market for the Group’s
current products remain challenging and the Group expects to report an operating loss.

doesnt this sound familar, in fact, this might be the standard template that they will use in the subsequent reports

so how long more do we need to wait before harvest? 10 years? and fruits from this investment is not guaranteed...

feel sorry for creative fans...seems like creative is in for a beating and $0.99 might be a possibility...

next support for Creative is $3.40, any attempt to rally will be overwhlemed by people who want to cut losses, so this should mark the end of creative, which I forecast a slow death from now until it gets delisted or hit $0...long deep misery journey for creative shareholders for the next few years...sob sob sob

they sold off all their assets such as factories and Creative HQ is on rental basis.. future not too bright too..

seems like the wicked one ironically is the one with heart to fore-warn others and has the last laugh...

what happen to those creative analysts? did they question why Creative keeps using R&d cost as the excuse of the losses and how much longer must creative focus on R&D before they can make at least 1 cent in profit?

IMO, the creator has lost his passion, only vision remains. until the creator bounce back to his passionate vision , expect no ▲ just ▼.

Where are all the supporters of Creative? where is that big timer who sold IPC to buy more Creative? Are you use the excuse of long term investment to justify to your purchase of Creative, just like Creative's on-going excuse of R&D cost eating into their earnings and afects their profits? hahaha....

not too late to sell and move on, seems like fair value for this junk is $0.085...

all creative holders are too stunned to respond, some are turning to counselling and some to loansharks, or house agents to sell their houses, or car agent to sell their cars...sad sad sad

CREATIVE TECH ($4.03, up 1)

One can’t help noticing how rapidly the company’s cash is dwindling in the last 2 and half years, from a high of US$408.64 mln as at Jun08 (thanks to a settlement with Apple) to only US$189.7 mln as at end Dec’10.

At the rate it is being depleted, cash will run out in no time. Thankfully, Creative has no debt.

Equally worrying is the depressing revenue of only US$69.29 mln in the last Christmas quarter. That compares with say US$390 mln in the Dec’05 quarter!

Looks like the only “support” to Creative’s share price is the book NAV of US$4 / S$5.12 at end Dec’10, which is however also a declining figure, vs US$4.16 six months ago.

Creative continues to destroy shareholder value with 2Q ended Dec’10 bottom-line loss widening from US$5.3mln a year ago to US$10.85mln in the current quarter, dragging its 6 months to Dec’10 loss to US$14.47mln versus a loss US$6.3mln last year.

As a result of the loss and worsening working capital requirements, operating cash flow was negative US$28mln versus negative US$7.4mln last year. After capex and dividend payments, cash holdings reduced from US$214mln to US$190mln.

Shareholders funds continue to be eroded from US$318mln a year ago and US$290mln a quarter ago to US$278mln in the current quarter.

Management warned that continued investments in R&D, sales and marketing expenses for new products, operating expenses are expected to continue to balloon going forward. Coupled with weak demand for their products, they will continue to remain loss making going forward, further eroding shareholders funds.

No wonder that Co-Founder and Director Mr Ng Kai Wa has been off-loading shares in the market having sold 10,000 shares at $4.04 on 7 Jan’11 and 15,850 shares at $4.36 in Nov’10, reducing his stake to 2,303,555 or 3.31% of the company.

We maintain our SELL recommendation.

the ones who are giving bullish views, about the convergence of moving averages as well as what " ...waiting for Ng Kai Wa's move" , need to do some self-reflection in giving these comments,come monday, creative will definitely trade at $3.70+ levels, come after cny, creative will be hit harder to $3.40 level as those who think they bought at "bargain" price below $4 few days ago will bite the bullets and cut their losses...this will attract another innocent of "bargain" hunters, who will be hit again few days later as they cut their losses and dive the price below $3...this vicious cycle is likely to continue until creative hits below $1, where no one is really interested in it anymore

perhaps creative might want to move into other business? sell kopi-o at food court? can name "creative kopi"?

creative is fast becoming a joke with its non stop diving of price, even one provision shop owner jokingly said that he might " takeover" creative and sell its zil eggs intsead of farm eggs ...haha

Things don't certainly look good. I think they are doing something all right

What did they do right?

Do take note that the latest result is based on sales during the holiday/christmas season

If sales during holidays is so bad, I dare not to imagine how much badded it can be for the next few quarters.

I am afraid that Creative at $4 is going to be history and its likely to trade within a rang of $3.8 to $2 for the rest of year

yes, you may be right, lets hope for the best

Nothing short of a miracle can save Creative. Rumours that it is a takeover target by some korean companies is unfounded and you should not build your hope on these rumours. my advice is to sell at any price now because during a downtrend, current price is always higher than later price. Tomorrow Creative is in another beating and you might get to make some money by selling short and buy back before the market close. It might close 3.6 tomorrow so any price around 3.8 to 3.75 is a good price to sell.

jimmy is clever. he doesn't own creative shares . he is just a fan living with freebies from creative

(looks like they stopped giving him anything free now a days .lolss)

frankly speaking, there's nothing we can do just hang on if you have the faith

Faith can move Mountains ! Who knows what will happen next?

and cross open seas :)